Simple answers to fertilizer measurment questions
Several years ago I was able to buy fertilizer components from an
agricultural fertilizer plant. The man who ran the plant was very
knowledgable and understood what I was trying to achieve with the
Mittleider Grow Boxes. He sold me all the components and I still
have some of them. One of the things I have is 50 lbs. of potassium
chloride. I neglected to write on it the NPK numbers. My source
died and the plant seems to have closed down since we lived in NM the
last time.
So my first question is what is the ice melt (potassium cloride) NPK
number?
Mr. Kennard told me that if I could get these items I'd have a great
compound:
34-0-0 use 10#
0-45-0 use 4#
0-0-60 use 6#
add 3# epsom salt
micro-nutrients
should I use 6# of the potassium cloride to finish this if I ever
find a supplier again?
so here is what I was able to get
ammonium sulfate 21-0-0
triple super phosphate 18-46-0
potassium cloride
magnisium sulfate
boron
The man from the local fertilizer plant said to use:
sulphur pellets instead of gypsum (in the Pre-Plant mix)
ammonium sulfate use 10#
magnesium sulfate use 6#
triple super phosphate use 1.25#
potassimum chloride use 6#
boron use 10 grams
What do you think of his recipe?
Someone from the Scotts company told me something that doesn't make
sense. I don't think they understand what y'all are trying to do
here. This is part of her note.
" a 45-45-45 mix would become a 15-15-15 due to percentage
of weight (45-45-45 is divided by 3) The analysis could be too much
fertilizer for your vegetables in the boxes. Are the nutrients you
want to combine a slow-release or agricultural grade? You may want
to contact the manufacturer of the products you have to make sure
they are safe for vegetable plantings."
Thanks for your help. I'm confident you can help me understand how
to get this stuff mixed up. We had over 1000 tomatoes from 5 plants
the last time we did this with plenty of sunshine. We look forward
to landscaping our new yard with vegetable beds, fruit trees, and
berry bushes.
Virginia
Virginia & Group:
First, your potassium chloride is 0-0-60, so it is good for what you
are trying to do. And yes, if you were using the other ingredients
6# of this would be right.
The fellow from the local fertilizer plant does not know fertilizing
plants as well as Dr. Jacob Mittleider, but that's to be expected,
because NO-ONE does. He is out on several points, but he got two out
of five right. By the way diammonium phosphate is the name of 18-46-
0. It's known all around the world as DAP.
What you are after is a mix with a ratio of 110-60-110. So using the
materials you say you can get here's what you should use:
(I invite you serious gardeners to do the calculations to prove
this. You will forever after be able to mix the correct fertilizer
mix, no matter what your source material is)
21-0-0 13.5#
18-46-0 4.5#
0-0-60 6.0#
Mag Sulfate 3.3#
To this you should add one 8 ½ ounce package of the Mittleider Micro-
Mix that's available at www.growfood. com in the Store section under
Fertilizers.
Do not use sulfur pellets INSTEAD of gypsum. Gypsum is the source
for essential calcium in high pH soils. If you have extremely high
pH you might need some sulfur, but never instead of your calcium.
Also, gypsum has sulfur in it, so you usually don't need added sulfur.
The Scotts woman was trying to tell you that if you combine (as a
hypothetical example) 100# of Urea, which is actually 46-0-0, 100# of
triple super phosphate, which is 0-45-0, and 100# of potassium
sulfate, which in some places might be as low as 0-0-45, you would
have the following:
Analysis #purchased # of N # of P # of K # of Inert Matls
45-0-0 100# 45 0 0 55
0-45-0 100# 0 45 0 55
0-0-45 100# 0 0 45 55
300# 45 45 45 165
You would still only have 45# of each of the three mineral nutrients,
but you would have 300# of total fertilizer. 45 as a percentage of
300 is only 15% - the rest being inert materials. You see then that
you end up with a mix of 15-15-15.
The 15-15-15 is most assuredly safe for use on your vegetable
garden. And it is typically agricultural grade, rather than slow
release. We therefore use a very small amount and apply it each
week.
agricultural fertilizer plant. The man who ran the plant was very
knowledgable and understood what I was trying to achieve with the
Mittleider Grow Boxes. He sold me all the components and I still
have some of them. One of the things I have is 50 lbs. of potassium
chloride. I neglected to write on it the NPK numbers. My source
died and the plant seems to have closed down since we lived in NM the
last time.
So my first question is what is the ice melt (potassium cloride) NPK
number?
Mr. Kennard told me that if I could get these items I'd have a great
compound:
34-0-0 use 10#
0-45-0 use 4#
0-0-60 use 6#
add 3# epsom salt
micro-nutrients
should I use 6# of the potassium cloride to finish this if I ever
find a supplier again?
so here is what I was able to get
ammonium sulfate 21-0-0
triple super phosphate 18-46-0
potassium cloride
magnisium sulfate
boron
The man from the local fertilizer plant said to use:
sulphur pellets instead of gypsum (in the Pre-Plant mix)
ammonium sulfate use 10#
magnesium sulfate use 6#
triple super phosphate use 1.25#
potassimum chloride use 6#
boron use 10 grams
What do you think of his recipe?
Someone from the Scotts company told me something that doesn't make
sense. I don't think they understand what y'all are trying to do
here. This is part of her note.
" a 45-45-45 mix would become a 15-15-15 due to percentage
of weight (45-45-45 is divided by 3) The analysis could be too much
fertilizer for your vegetables in the boxes. Are the nutrients you
want to combine a slow-release or agricultural grade? You may want
to contact the manufacturer of the products you have to make sure
they are safe for vegetable plantings."
Thanks for your help. I'm confident you can help me understand how
to get this stuff mixed up. We had over 1000 tomatoes from 5 plants
the last time we did this with plenty of sunshine. We look forward
to landscaping our new yard with vegetable beds, fruit trees, and
berry bushes.
Virginia
Virginia & Group:
First, your potassium chloride is 0-0-60, so it is good for what you
are trying to do. And yes, if you were using the other ingredients
6# of this would be right.
The fellow from the local fertilizer plant does not know fertilizing
plants as well as Dr. Jacob Mittleider, but that's to be expected,
because NO-ONE does. He is out on several points, but he got two out
of five right. By the way diammonium phosphate is the name of 18-46-
0. It's known all around the world as DAP.
What you are after is a mix with a ratio of 110-60-110. So using the
materials you say you can get here's what you should use:
(I invite you serious gardeners to do the calculations to prove
this. You will forever after be able to mix the correct fertilizer
mix, no matter what your source material is)
21-0-0 13.5#
18-46-0 4.5#
0-0-60 6.0#
Mag Sulfate 3.3#
To this you should add one 8 ½ ounce package of the Mittleider Micro-
Mix that's available at www.growfood. com in the Store section under
Fertilizers.
Do not use sulfur pellets INSTEAD of gypsum. Gypsum is the source
for essential calcium in high pH soils. If you have extremely high
pH you might need some sulfur, but never instead of your calcium.
Also, gypsum has sulfur in it, so you usually don't need added sulfur.
The Scotts woman was trying to tell you that if you combine (as a
hypothetical example) 100# of Urea, which is actually 46-0-0, 100# of
triple super phosphate, which is 0-45-0, and 100# of potassium
sulfate, which in some places might be as low as 0-0-45, you would
have the following:
Analysis #purchased # of N # of P # of K # of Inert Matls
45-0-0 100# 45 0 0 55
0-45-0 100# 0 45 0 55
0-0-45 100# 0 0 45 55
300# 45 45 45 165
You would still only have 45# of each of the three mineral nutrients,
but you would have 300# of total fertilizer. 45 as a percentage of
300 is only 15% - the rest being inert materials. You see then that
you end up with a mix of 15-15-15.
The 15-15-15 is most assuredly safe for use on your vegetable
garden. And it is typically agricultural grade, rather than slow
release. We therefore use a very small amount and apply it each
week.
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